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Good morning, everybody.
It’s now been five days since the heartbreaking tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut; three days since we gathered as a nation to pray for the victims. And today, a few more of the 20 small children and six educators who were taken from us will be laid to rest.
We may never know all the reasons why this tragedy happened. We do know that every day since, more Americans have died of gun violence. We know such violence has terrible consequences for our society. And if there is even one thing that we can do to prevent any of these events, we have a deep obligation -- all of us -- to try.
Over these past five days, a discussion has reemerged as to what we might do not only to deter mass shootings in the future, but to reduce the epidemic of gun violence that plagues this country every single day. And it’s encouraging that people of all different backgrounds and beliefs and political persuasions have been willing to challenge some old assumptions and change longstanding positions.
That conversation has to continue. But this time, the words need to lead to action.
We know this is a complex issue that stirs deeply held passions and political divides. And as I said on Sunday night, there’s no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. We’re going to need to work on making access to mental health care at least as easy as access to a gun. We’re going to need to look more closely at a culture that all too often glorifies guns and violence. And any actions we must take must begin inside the home and inside our hearts.
But the fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing. The fact that we can’t prevent every act of violence doesn’t mean we can’t steadily reduce the violence, and prevent the very worst violence.
That’s why I’ve asked the Vice President to lead an effort that includes members of my Cabinet and outside organizations to come up with a set of concrete proposals no later than January -- proposals that I then intend to push without delay. This is not some Washington commission. This is not something where folks are going to be studying the issue for six months and publishing a report that gets read and then pushed aside. This is a team that has a very specific task, to pull together real reforms right now. I asked Joe to lead this effort in part because he wrote the 1994 Crime Bill that helped law enforcement bring down the rate of violent crime in this country. That plan -- That bill also included the assault weapons ban that was publicly supported at the time by former Presidents including Ronald Reagan.
The good news is there’s already a growing consensus for us to build from. A majority of Americans support banning the sale of military-style assault weapons. A majority of Americans support banning the sale of high-capacity ammunition clips. A majority of Americans support laws requiring background checks before all gun purchases, so that criminals can’t take advantage of legal loopholes to buy a gun from somebody who won’t take the responsibility of doing a background check at all.
I urge the new Congress to hold votes on these measures next year in a timely manner. And considering Congress hasn’t confirmed a director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms in six years -- the agency that works most closely with state and local law enforcement to keep illegal guns out of the hands of criminals -- I’d suggest that they make this a priority early in the year.
Look, like the majority of Americans, I believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms. This country has a strong tradition of gun ownership that’s been handed down from generation to generation. Obviously across the country there are regional differences. There are differences between how people feel in urban areas and rural areas. And the fact is the vast majority of gun owners in America are responsible -- they buy their guns legally and they use them safely, whether for hunting or sport shooting, collection or protection.
But you know what, I am also betting that the majority -- the vast majority -- of responsible, law-abiding gun owners would be some of the first to say that we should be able to keep an irresponsible, law-breaking few from buying a weapon of war. I’m willing to bet that they don’t think that using a gun and using common sense are incompatible ideas -- that an unbalanced man shouldn’t be able to get his hands on a military-style assault rifle so easily; that in this age of technology, we should be able to check someone’s criminal records before he or she can check out at a gun show; that if we work harder to keep guns out of the hands of dangerous people, there would be fewer atrocities like the one in Newtown -- or any of the lesser-known tragedies that visit small towns and big cities all across America every day.
Since Friday morning, a police officer was gunned down in Memphis, leaving four children without their mother. Two officers were killed outside a grocery store in Topeka. A woman was shot and killed inside a Las Vegas casino. Three people were shot inside an Alabama hospital. A four-year-old was caught in a drive-by in Missouri, and taken off life support just yesterday. Each one of these Americans was a victim of the everyday gun violence that takes the lives of more than 10,000 Americans every year -- violence that we cannot accept as routine.
So I will use all the powers of this office to help advance efforts aimed at preventing more tragedies like this. We won’t prevent them all -- but that can’t be an excuse not to try. It won’t be easy -- but that can't be an excuse not to try.
And I'm not going to be able to do it by myself. Ultimately if this effort is to succeed it’s going to require the help of the American people -- it’s going to require all of you. If we're going to change things, it’s going to take a wave of Americans -- mothers and fathers, daughters and sons, pastors, law enforcement, mental health professionals -- and, yes, gun owners -- standing up and saying “enough” on behalf of our kids.
It will take commitment
and compromise, and most of all, it will take courage. But if those
of us who were sent here to serve the public trust can summon even
one tiny iota of the courage those teachers, that principal in
Newtown summoned on Friday -- if cooperation and common sense
prevail -- then I’m convinced we can make a sensible, intelligent
way to make the United States of America a safer, stronger place for
our children to learn and to grow.
Thank you. And now I'm
going to let the Vice President go and I'm going to take a few
questions. And I will start with Ben Feller.
Question: Thank you, Mr.
President. I'd like to ask you about the other serious issue
consuming this town right now, the fiscal cliff.
President
Obama: Right.
Question: Haven’t you
betrayed some of the voters who supported you in the election by
changing your positions on who should get a tax increase and by
including Social Security benefits now in this mix? And more
broadly, there seems to be a deepening sense that negotiations
aren't going very well right now. Can you give us a candid update?
Are we likely to go over the cliff?
President
Obama: Well,
first of all, there's no reason why we should. Remember what I said
during the campaign. I thought that it was important for us to
reduce our deficit in a balanced and responsible way. I said it was
important for us to make sure that millionaires and billionaires
paid their fair share. I said that we were going to have to make
some tough cuts, some tough decisions on the spending side, but what
I wouldn't do was hurt vulnerable families only to pay for a tax cut
for somebody like me. And what I said was that the ultimate package
would involve a balance of spending cuts and tax increases.
That's exactly what I've
put forward. What I've said is, is that in order to arrive at a
compromise, I am prepared to do some very tough things -- some
things that some Democrats don't want to see and probably there are
a few Republicans who don't want to see either. But the only way
that we're going to be able to stabilize the economy, make sure
we've got a platform for long-term economic growth, that we get our
deficits under control and we make sure that middle-class families
are protected is if we come up with something that members of both
parties in Congress can support.
And that's the plan that
I've put forward. I have gone at least halfway in meeting some of
the Republicans' concerns, recognizing that even though we
campaigned on these issues, even though the majority of Americans
agree with me that we should be raising taxes on the wealthiest few
as a means of reducing the deficit, I have also said that I'm
willing to identify some spending cuts that make sense.
And, frankly, up until
about a couple of days ago, if you looked at it, the Republicans in
the House and Speaker Boehner I think were in a position to say,
we've gotten a fair deal. The fact that they haven't taken it yet
is puzzling and I think a question that you're going to have to
address to them.
I remain optimistic,
though, because if you look at what the Speaker has proposed, he's
conceded that income tax rates should go up -- except right now he
only wants to have them go up for millionaires. If you're making
$900,000, somehow he thinks that you can't afford to pay a little
more in taxes. But the principle that rates are going to need to go
up he's conceded.
I've said I'm willing to
make some cuts. What separates us is probably a few hundred billion
dollars. The idea that we would put our economy at risk because you
can't bridge that gap doesn’t make a lot of sense.
So I'm going to continue
to talk to the Speaker and the other leaders up in Congress. But,
ultimately, they've got to do their job. Right now their job is to
make sure that middle-class taxes do not go up and that we have a
balanced, responsible package of deficit reduction.
It is there for all to
see. It is a deal that can get done. But it is not going to be --
it cannot be done if every side wants 100 percent. And part of what
voters were looking for is some compromise up here. That’s what
folks want. They understand that they're not going to get 100
percent of what they want. And for some reason, that message has
not yet taken up on Capitol Hill.
And when you think about
what we've gone through over the last couple of months -- a
devastating hurricane, and now one of the worst tragedies in our
memory -- the country deserves folks to be willing to compromise on
behalf of the greater good, and not tangle themselves up in a whole
bunch of ideological positions that don’t make much sense.
So I remain not only
open to conversations, but I remain eager to get something done.
I'd like to get it done before Christmas. There's been a lot of
posturing up on Capitol Hill, instead of just going ahead and
getting stuff done. And we've been wasting a lot of time. It is
the right thing to do. I'm prepared to get it done. But they're
going to have to go ahead and make some adjustments.
And I'll just give you
one other example. The Speaker now is proposing what he calls plan
B. So he says, well, this would raise taxes only on folks making a
million dollars or more. What that means is an average of a $50,000
tax break for every millionaire out there, at the same time as we're
not providing unemployment insurance for 2 million people who are
still out there looking for work. It actually means a tax increase
for millions of working families across the country at the same time
as folks like me would be getting a tax break. That violates the
core principles that were debated during the course of this election
and that the American people determined was the wrong way to go.
And so my hope is, is
that the Speaker and his caucus, in conjunction with the other
legislative leaders up there, can find a way to make sure that
middle-class families don’t see their taxes go up on January 1st;
that we make sure that those things that middle-class families count
on like tax credits for college, or making sure that they’re getting
some help when it comes to raising their kids through things like
the child tax credit, that that gets done; and that we have a
balanced package for deficit reduction, which is exactly what I’ve
put forward.
Question: Will you give more
ground if you need to, or are you done?
President
Obama: If you
look at the package that I put forward, it is a balanced package by
any definition. We have put forward real cuts in spending that are
hard to do, in every category. And by any measure, by any
traditional calculation, by the measures that Republicans themselves
have used in the past, this would be as large a piece of deficit
reduction as we’ve seen in the last 20 years. And if you combine
that with the increased revenue from the wealthy paying a little bit
more, then you actually have something that would stabilize our
deficit and debt for a decade -- for 10 years.
Now, the notion that we
would not do that, but instead the Speaker would run a play that
keeps tax cuts for folks making $500,000 or $700,000 or $800,000 or
$900,000 a year, and gives more tax breaks to millionaires and
billionaires, and raises taxes on middle-class families, and then
has no cuts in it -- which is what he says he wants -- doesn’t make
much sense. I mean, let’s just think
about the logic for a second. They’re thinking about voting for
raising taxes at least on folks over a million, which they say they
don’t want to do, but they’re going to reject spending cuts that
they say they do want to do. That defies logic. There’s no
explanation for that.
I think that any
objective person out there looking would say that we’ve put forward
a very balanced plan and it’s time for us to go ahead and get it
done. That’s what the country needs right now. Because I think
folks have been through some wrenching times, we’re still recovering
from a very tough recession, and what they’re hoping for is a sense
of stability, focus, compromise, common sense over the next couple
of years. And I think we can provide it. But this is a good test
for them. Carol Lee.
Question: Thank you, Mr.
President. Just to follow on Ben's question, what is your next
move? Are we in a position now where you're just waiting for the
Speaker to make a move?
President
Obama: Well,
I'm going to reach out to all the leaders involved over the next
couple of days and find out what is it that's holding this thing up.
What is holding it up? If the argument from Republicans is we
haven't done enough spending cuts, that argument is not going to fly
because we've got close to a trillion dollars of spending cuts. And
when you add interest, then it's more than a trillion dollars in
spending cuts. If the argument is that
they can't do -- they can't increase tax rates on folks making
$700,000 or $800,000 a year, that's not a persuasive argument to me
and it's certainly not a persuasive argument to the American people.
It may be that members
of their caucus haven't looked at exactly what we've proposed. It
may be that if we provide more information or there's greater
specificity or we work through some of their concerns, that we can
get some movement then.
But the fact of the
matter is, is that what would violate my commitment to voters is if
I ended up agreeing to a plan that put more of the burden on
middle-class families and less of a burden on the wealthy in an
effort to reduce our deficit. That's not something I'm going to do.
What would violate my commitment to voters would be to put forward
a plan that makes it harder for young people to go to college, that
makes it harder for a family with a disabled kid to care for that
kid. And there's a threshold
that you reach where the balance tips, even in making compromises
that are required to get something done in this town, where you are
hurting people in order to give another advantage to folks who don't
need help. And we had an extensive debate about this for a year.
And not only does the majority of the American people agree with
me, about half of Republican voters agree with me on this.
So at some point,
there's got to be I think a recognition on the part of my Republican
friends that -- take the deal. They will be able to claim that they
have worked with me over the last two years to reduce the deficit
more than any other deficit reduction package; that we will have
stabilized it for 10 years. That is a significant achievement for
them. They should be proud of it. But they keep on finding ways to
say no, as opposed to finding ways to say yes.
And I don’t know how
much of that just has to do with -- it is very hard for them to say
yes to me. But at some point, they’ve got to take me out of it and
think about their voters, and think about what’s best for the
country. And if they do that -- if they’re not worried about who’s
winning and who’s losing, did they score a point on the President,
did they extract that last little concession, did they force him to
do something he really doesn’t want to do just for the heck of it,
and they focus on actually what’s good for the country, I actually
think we can get this done.
Question: You mentioned the
$700,000 and $800,000. Are you willing to move on income level and
are there specific things that you would do --
President
Obama: I’m not
going to get into specific negotiations here. My point is simple,
Carol, that if you look at Speaker Boehner’s proposal and you look
at my proposal, they’re actually pretty close. They keep on saying
that somehow we haven’t put forward real spending cuts. Actually,
there was I think a graph in The New York Times today that showed --
they’re the same categories, right? There’s a little bit of tweaks
here and there; there are a few differences, but we’re right there.
And on the revenue side,
there’s a difference in terms of them wanting to preserve tax breaks
for folks between $250,000 and a million that we just can’t afford.
I mean, keep in mind I’m in that income category; I’d love to not
pay as much in taxes. But I also think it’s the right thing to do
for us to make sure that people who have less -- people who are
working, people who are striving, people who are hoping for their
kids -- that they have opportunity. That’s what we campaigned
about. That’s what we talked about.
And this is not a
situation where I’m unwilling to compromise. This is not a
situation where I’m trying to rub their face in anything. I think
anybody who looks at this objectively would say that coming off my
election, I have met them at least halfway in order to get something
done for the country.
And so I noticed that
there were a couple of headlines out there saying, oh, we’re now in
the land of political posturing, and it’s the usual he said-he said
atmosphere. But look at the facts. Look at where we started; look
at where they started. My proposal is right there in the middle.
We should be able to get
this done. Let’s get it done. We don’t have a lot of time.
Carrie. Where’s --
there you are.
Question: Thank you, Mr.
President.
President
Obama: Yes.
Question: What is your level
of confidence that if you are able to reach a comprehensive deal
with the Speaker, that he will be able to bring his members onboard
and get it passed? Essentially, do you still trust Speaker Boehner
in this process?
President
Obama: There is
no doubt that the Speaker has challenges in his caucus, and I
recognize that. I’m often reminded when I speak to the Republican
leadership that the majority of their caucus’s membership come from
districts that I lost. And so sometimes they may not see an
incentive in cooperating with me, in part because they’re more
concerned about challenges from a tea party candidate, or challenges
from the right, and cooperating with me may make them vulnerable. I
recognize that. But, goodness, if this
past week has done anything, it should just give us some
perspective. If there’s one thing we should have after this week,
it should be a sense of perspective about what’s important. And I
would like to think that members of that caucus would say to
themselves: You know what, we disagree with the President on a
whole bunch of things. We wish the other guy had won. We’re going
to fight him on a whole range of issues over the next four years.
We think his philosophy is all screwed up. But right now, what the
country needs is for us to compromise, get a deficit reduction deal
in place; make sure middle class taxes don’t go up; make sure that
we’re laying the foundations for growth; give certainty to
businesses large and small; not put ourselves through some sort of
self-inflicted crisis every six months; allow ourselves time to
focus on things like preventing the tragedy in Newtown from
happening again; focus on issues like energy and immigration reform
and all the things that will really make a determination as to
whether our country grows over the next four years, 10 years, 40
years. And if you just pull
back from the immediate political battles, if you kind of peel off
the partisan war paint, then we should be able to get something
done. And I think the Speaker
would like to get that done. I think an environment needs to be
created within not just the House Republican caucus, but also among
Senate Republicans that say, the campaign is over and let’s see if
we can do what’s right for the country -- at least for the next
month. And then we can reengage in all the other battles that
they’ll want to fight.
Question: If you don’t get it
done, Republicans have said they’ll try to use the debt limit as a
next pressure point. Would you negotiate with them in that context?
President
Obama: No. And
I’ve been very clear about this. This is the United States of
America, the greatest country on Earth, the world’s economic
superpower. And the idea that we lurch from crisis to crisis, and
every six months, or every nine months, that we threaten not to pay
our bills on stuff we’ve already bought, and default, and ruin the
full faith and credit of the United States of America -- that’s not
how you run a great country.
So I’ve put forward a
very clear principle: I will not negotiate around the debt ceiling.
We’re not going to play the same game that we saw happen in 2011 --
which was hugely destructive; hurt our economy; provided more
uncertainty to the business community than anything else that
happened. And I'm not alone in
this. If you go to Wall Street, including talking to a whole bunch
of folks who spent a lot of money trying to beat me, they would say
it would be disastrous for us to use the debt ceiling as a cudgel to
try to win political points on Capitol Hill.
So we're not going to do
that -- which is why I think that part of what I hope over the next
couple of days we see is a recognition that there is a way to go
ahead and get what it is that you've been fighting for. These guys
have been fighting for spending cuts. They can get some very
meaningful spending cuts. This would amount to $2 trillion -- $2
trillion -- in spending cuts over the last couple of years. And in
exchange, they're getting a little over a trillion dollars in
revenue. And that meets the pledge that I made during the campaign,
which was $2 to $2.50 of spending cuts for every revenue increase.
And that's an approach that I think most Americans think is
appropriate. But I will not negotiate
around the debt ceiling. We're not going to do that again.
Question: Sir, may I ask a
question about Newtown, please?
President
Obama: Yes,
I've got David Jackson.
Question: Thank you, Mr.
President. Getting back to the gun issue, you alluded to the fact
that Washington commissions don't have the greatest reputation in
the world. What makes you think this one is going to be different
given the passage of time and the political power of gun rights
groups like the National Rifle Association?
President
Obama: Well,
this is not going to be a commission. Joe is going to gather up some
key Cabinet members who have an interest in this issue. We're going
to reach out to a bunch of stakeholders. We're going to be reaching
out to members of Congress who have an interest in this issue. It's
not as if we have to start from scratch. There are a whole bunch of
proposals that have been thought about, debated, but hopefully also
some new ideas in terms of how we deal with this issue.
Their task is going to
be to sift through every good idea that's out there, and even take a
look at some bad ideas before disposing of them, and come up with a
concrete set of recommendations in about a month. And I would hope
that our memories aren't so short that what we saw in Newtown isn't
lingering with us, that we don't remain passionate about it only a
month later. And as soon as we get
those recommendations, I will be putting forward very specific
proposals. I will be talking about them in my State of The Union
and we will be working with interested members of Congress to try to
get some of them done.
And the idea that we
would say this is terrible, this is a tragedy, never again, and we
don’t have the sustained attention span to be able to get this done
over the next several months doesn’t make sense. I have more
confidence in the American people than that. I have more confidence
in the parents, the mothers and fathers that I’ve been meeting over
the last several days all across the country from all political
persuasions, including a lot of gun owners, who say, you know what,
this time we’ve got to do things differently.
Question: What about the NRA?
President
Obama: Well,
the NRA is an organization that has members who are mothers and
fathers. And I would expect that they’ve been impacted by this as
well. And hopefully they’ll do some self-reflection.
And here’s what we know
-- that any single gun law can’t solve all these problems. We’re
going to have to look at mental health issues. We’re going to have
to look at schools. There are going to be a whole range of things
that Joe’s group looks at. We know that issues of gun safety will
be an element of it. And what we’ve seen over the last 20 years, 15
years, is the sense that anything related to guns is somehow an
encroachment on the Second Amendment. What we’re looking for here
is a thoughtful approach that says we can preserve our Second
Amendment, we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to
carry out their activities, but that we’re going to actually be
serious about the safety side of this; that we’re going to be
serious about making sure that something like Newtown or Aurora
doesn’t happen again.
And there is a big chunk
of space between what the Second Amendment means and having no rules
at all. And that space is what Joe is going to be working on to try
to identify where we can find some common ground.
So I’ve got -- I’m going
to take one last question.
Go ahead, Jake.
Question: It seems to a lot
of observers that you made the political calculation in 2008 in your
first term and in 2012 not to talk about gun violence. You had your
position on renewing the ban on semiautomatic rifles that
then-Senator Biden put into place, but you didn’t do much about it.
This is not the first issue -- the first incident of horrific gun
violence of your four years. Where have you been?
President
Obama: Well,
here’s where I’ve been, Jake. I’ve been President of the United
States dealing with the worst economic crisis since the Great
Depression, an auto industry on the verge of collapse, two wars. I
don’t think I’ve been on vacation.
And so I think all of us
have to do some reflection on how we prioritize what we do here in
Washington. And as I said on Sunday, this should be a wake-up call
for all of us to say that if we are not getting right the need to
keep our children safe, then nothing else matters. And it’s my
commitment to make sure that we do everything we can to keep our
children safe. A lot of things go in --
are involved in that, Jake. So making sure they’ve got decent
health care and making sure they’ve got a good education, making
sure that their parents have jobs -- those are all relevant as well.
Those aren’t just sort of side issues. But there’s no doubt that
this has to be a central issue. And that’s exactly why I’m
confident that Joe is going to take this so seriously over the next
couple months. All right. Thank you,
everybody.
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