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First of all, thanks
for coming out here on -- during the holidays to see our troops; and I
just want to say they're doing a magnificent job. We are making
good progress against the enemy; and sometimes it's hard to see
because it's incremental, but if you step back and take a look at
how far we've come, it's really pretty significant.
Most significantly and most recently, we've begun to really make
some progress with our Iraqi security force partners in and around Ramadi. And that really validates the strategy of training and
equipping, advising and assisting our Iraqi security force partners;
and although they have their own ways of doing things -- and it may not
always be our way -- it is, in the end, becoming increasingly
effective as they've pushed the enemy out of that very important city of Ramadi and begin to set the conditions to go back and take Mosul
from the enemy as well.
I'd also like to say, although we're in Iraq, the campaign is not
limited to Iraq. It's also going on in Syria -- and we're making some
good progress there as well with our partners in -- in the north and
through our air campaign.
So we're putting pressure on the enemy throughout the breadth and
depth of the battlespace, and it's beginning to take its toll.
And with that, I'll open it up for questions.
Q: General, do you think that some of the political concerns of the
Iraqis about the U.S. footprint is hindering at all your effort in
the campaign? And do you expect that to change or shift over time?
LTG MacFarland: Yeah, this is a very complex environment that we're
operating in and we have to be attentive to some of the political
realities that surround us every single day. And there are a number
of complex relationships that the government of Iraq has to tend to,
and we are here in Iraq at the behest of that government.
So, you know, we sometimes have to adjust the things that we would do, you
know, in a -- on a chess board. You know, we have -- you know, we
have to recognize that it's not
that clean.
STAFF: Missy? [ph]
Q: Sir, can you just give us an
update on situation with the Turkish troops in northern Iraq? And just to
clarify something that Secretary Carter said: Do you expect that
there will not be
American Apaches and combat advisers requested for
the Ramadi operation?
LTG MacFarland: Let me take the second part first because that's
more in my wheelhouse, with the respect to the Apaches. Right now,
things are going pretty well in Ramadi, and so the Iraqi security
forces haven't asked for us to provide Apache support to them. If
they were to ask, we could do that, and -- and we're prepared to do that.
So going back to your first part of your question about the Turks --
you know, that --
I'll just reiterate what the Secretary said, which is we are in full
support of Iraqi territorial sovereignty and the Turks are partners
with us in the fight against
Daesh. We're -- so we're partners with them and
with the Iraqis, and we're doing our best to get this issue sorted
out. But the overarching principle for us is: Iraq is a sovereign
country and forces should only be here at the request of the
government of Iraq.
STAFF: Andrew and then Kim.
Q: General, in your military view
-- setting aside the Iraqi political
issues for a minute -- do you think that bringing Apaches into the
fight and putting ground combat advisers of the brigade level, would
that hasten the defeat of ISIL?
LTG MacFarland: It could. You know, it's going to depend on the
situation as we move forward in the campaign. You know, one of the things that
we watch everyday is how are the Iraqis doing? -- you know -- and --
and do they
need additional enablers? And if those enablers are required, or
appear to be required, then that's a conversation that I have with
the prime minister or the minister of defense, and then I message
that back to my superiors in the United States.
We're prepared to do that and -- and the government of Iraq knows we're
prepared to do it. And -- And, you know, right now, you're asking me to
speculate about a fight tomorrow or the next week or the next month
and one thing I've learned in all my years of combat is, you know, I'll
probably get it wrong if I try. So my answer to you is, "We'll see."
And
we're prepared to -- to say "yes" if requested.
Q: Sir, I'm just wondering, do the U.S. and Iraq see eye to eye on
how to fight this battle? Or is it a sort of negotiating --
the negotiations go on over what is the best way --
LTG MacFarland: It's a conversation.
It's a discussion. We have a
Western way of war and, you know, we are
disciples of Clausewitz.1
They are more
disciples of Sun Tzu2 and
-- and if anybody knows their
military theorists/isms, you know, they'll -- you recognize that those two ways of
war don't always align perfectly.3 But we're partners, so we talk it
out and they adjust towards us sometimes and we adjust towards them.
Q: But it's -- it's never an instance --
What if, for instance, they don't want the Apaches and they lose or
they -- they fail to retake Ramadi? What
would happen then?
LTG MacFarland: Well, it's kind of hard to inflict support on
somebody, you know? So, you know, we -- we try to provide support and...like I said,
the kind of support we provide has to be consistent with the way
Iraqi security forces fight.
STAFF: Bill, you got one? And
then we'll start to wrap it up.
Q: Sir, how often do you make suggestions to the Iraqi government
and are turned down? Is this a frequent type of thing? And -- and also,
when do you estimate that the
ISF will route ISIL from Ramadi and
turn toward Mosul?
LTG MacFarland: Okay. We talk all the time, and,
you know, the answer is very
seldom "no." The answer is, you know, usually, you know, "Let's think about it",
you know, and we'll -- we'll talk
some more and maybe make some adjustments until we get to "yes." And
in
terms of how much longer Ramadi's going to take, I think the enemy
there has been attrited very significantly and, you know, we're optimistic.
And I'm never going to put a timeline on...these fights, you know, because if I
had done that a couple of months ago, you know, you'd be saying, "Hey, didn't
you say x date," you know? So -- So I'm not going to -- I'm not
going to do that. But what I
will say is that the conditions, I think, are properly set for the
full liberation of Ramadi and we're doing everything we can to
expedite the completion of that operation, and -- and I remain very
optimistic -- pretty
bullish -- on it.
STAFF: Last one, Gordon?
Q: Were there -- not to beat a
dead horse -- but are there other offers
that we're not asking you about that are kind of on the table that
you're hopeful the Iraqis will act on?
LTG MacFarland: So, what we're really looking at right now,
Gordon, is as we
begin planning future operations, what additional enablers might
facilitate those operations. And we're not necessarily limiting
ourselves to anything that's already been discussed. You know, we're
-- we're looking at, you know, the things that Iraqis need to succeed.
You know, this has to
be an Iraqi victory at the end of the day, but, you know, they --
they need a little
bit of help.
I'll give you one example, and that's with more sustainment. You
know, as the Iraqis move themselves farther and farther up the, you
know, the -- the
Tigris and Euphrates River valleys, pushing the enemy out of Iraq,
sustainment becomes more of a --a challenge. I mean, your lines of
communications get longer.
So, you know, nobody does sustainment, nobody does expeditionary operations
better than the United States of America, so there are ways that we
can help them with that and we're actively looking at that now.
1 See also this synopsis of Clausewitz's On War
2 See also this synopsis of Sun Tzu's Art of War
3 A somewhat opaque reference which may refer to one or more conceptual and/or operational differences at varying levels -- philosophical, psychological, strategic, tactical, etc. -- of analysis.
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